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MINISTERS,  Church Pastors and  Ministries who   have   BANK-DEBTS   and   BANK-LOANS:    

"...... more tables will be turned over ......"    in   2010 

The   2  Excerpts   below   deal   with  DEBT  in  America's  churches/ministries   and   are   from  2   recent  Prophecies posted on:   Nov 5, 2009   -   Dec 28, 2009  
Nov  5,  2009
*Excerpt below is from:    Today's False Prophets and the Elijah List    /  posted  @  on   Nov  5, 2009  /   ~Rob Conrad

A  Word  by  the  Spirit  to  Believers  in  America:   

A  major  example  of  today's  self-serving   Church  Leaders,   flashy TV  ministries  and   failed   'prophets'   is  now  occurring   in  America. Since   the   economic   collapse   14   months   ago   in   Mid-Sept  '08 many   of   today's   'money-changer'   TV   Ministers   and   Church leaders   are    having    their    'tables  turned over'   in    losing    their church   buildings   and    even    their    congregations.

Why?   Because  many of   America's  Ministers,   church  Pastors  and so-called   'prophets'   have  borrowed  from the  BANK   over  the last  20   years  to   'buy  or  build  a  church'    saying   'God  told  them to'.     

However,  God   did  NOT   'tell'   them   this   as   they   claim.     Why? Because   it    completely   opposes  His   clear  and   fundamental   word
NOT  to  have  ANY   'borrowed  debt'.       [Deut 28:1-15;  Prov 22:7; Rom 13:8].

Worse,   is   America's   indebted-to-the-bank   5-Fold   ministers  and church  leaders    then  placed   that   yoke  and   burden   of   their   own wrongful  DEBTS  upon  God's  innocent  children,  the  body  of  Christ, to pay it off !       This  is   scandalous  on   the  parts   of   today's 'prophets'   and   ministers  and   is   framed   as   a   'hireling'   accor- ding   to   the   Lord.     One  of   their   favorite   phrases   refers  to  that minister  as   'good  soil'   to   plant   your   tithes   and   offerings   into. As  it   turns  out,   many   'money-changer'   ministers  are   being exposed   today   as   having   been    'bad  soil'.

Brothers-sisters,   God  is  not  mocked.     More  ministers  in  America will  have    'their  tables turned over'   in   2010,   being  left   with  no 'church building',    no   congregation,   but   still   left  with  huge  existing BANK DEBT(s)  attached  to  their  name.     Also,  ministers  with personal  BANK DEBTS   [for their  homes, autos, toys, etc]    will   reap the  same   kind   of   consequences   and   difficulties.   

Prophetically at  this  time  in  America,   the  Spirit  of  God   intends  to remind  every   believer   NOT  to engage  in  ANY  more   borrowing, at  all    Do  not  be  persuaded  any  longer  by   today's   'good soil' ministers   and   'prophets'    who   push   believers   to   'give'   while that   same   church   leader   or   minister   has    BORROWED   himself into  BANK  DEBT,   even  living  lavishly.

Has  God   turned  His   back   on   His   believers   in   America   who made   this   error   of  BORROWING  from  the  bank ?    Absolutely not.     But,   the  Spirit  of  God   is   intending   for    His   people   to learn   RIGHT  NOW   from    this   error,   and  NOT  repeat  it.     Repent from   it,    and   move  forward.     

A   prime   example   of   today's   arrogant   and    blind    'bad soil' preachers  and    false  prophets   who   STILL  CONTINUE   to    fleece the   flock   since   Mid-Sept  2008,   aired  on   TBN  recently  in   2009.

This    Pastor   boasted   about   stopping   the   BANK   from    repo- ssessing   his   church   buildings   because  of   his   inability   to   pay back    his   massive   1st   borrowed  DEBT.       How   did   he  do   it? He  orchestrated  a   2nd  BANK  DEBT.     Again,   this   manipulator continues   to   disobey   God's  Word   which   instructs   NOT   to   be 'enslaved  to  the  lender'    [Prov 22:7],    and    then   worse,   places his   wrongful  errors   and   huge   burdens  of  DEBT   upon  God's innocent   children   to   pay   it   off.

This  is   an   exact   example   of   what   the   Spirit  of  God   is   alerting His  people   now   to  watch  for  in   today's  hirelings.    These   blind 'money-changers'   and   hirelings   who   continue  in   these schemes   will   be   accountable  to  God  and   be   exposed  in   the days   ahead  as   fleecers  of   the   flock   and   wolves   in   sheep's clothing.    

Here  again,   America's   5-Fold  ministers  and   these  8  so-called 'prophets'   themselves   have   failed   to    warn   God's   people  of ANY  of   this,   including   God's   clear  Word   which   instructs   NOT  to engage  in   DEBT.

Instead,   they  have  persisted   in  preaching  their   'prosperity' message  for   the   last   20   years   while   leaving   out    the   required balance   of    'obeying  God's  word'    and     'seeking  Him  first'.     [Math 6:33;  Deut 28].          

Their  negligence,  as   'prophets'   and   'seers',   has  helped   steer the  great   losses,   confusion  and   trauma   we   see  occurring   un- necessarily   today   amongst  God's  people  and   families  in   America.
Only  false  prophets   would   be   this   blind   and   disobedient   to God's   clear   Word   and  then   boldly   continue  to   misdirect  the body  of  Christ    in   the   same  way.  

Yet,  America's  Christian  TV  ministries  and   these  8  false  prophets are  STILL  heard   TODAY  filling   the   body  of  Christ's  ears   with their   same  false prophecies   saying    'This  is  the  season of prosperity'    and    'America's greatest  prosperity  is  THIS  year !'

This  is  now   proven  as   total  false  prophecy   which   these  8 men   and   countless  other   TV  ministers   and   church  Pastors  have been  delivering   each  year  since   about   2000.     When  it  didn't happen  in  each  year,   these    8  false  prophets   simply   re-applied their   pitch   to  the  next  year,   and   the  next,   and  right  up   through the   summer  of   2008.

Then,  just  months  before   the  economic  collapse in   Mid-Sept 2008 Kim  Clement    stood  boldly   on   TBN   'prophesying',     'There  will be NO RECESSION!'.     But,  within  months,    America's  biggest economic  collapse  since  the  Great  Depression  kicked  in,   proving AGAIN,  Clement's   and   all   of  the   other    false  prophets'   major folly    pertaining    to    this   particular   false   'prophecy'.  

Today,  after  14  months  of  economic  turmoil  with  NO  relief   in  sight for  America,   what   can    these   8   false  prophets   and   countless other   false   prophetical  voices  amongst   Evangelicals  be   heard 'prophesying'    to   America   now?

Have  they   identified  to  God's  people  the   error  of   'borrowing into  DEBT'    as  just   mentioned?   NO.     Have   you   heard   any  of them  from   the  TV   airwaves   announcing   by   the   Spirit   to    'NOT go  into  DEBT  anymore!' ?   NO.     Have  any  of   these   'prophets' given   the   true   word  of   the   Spirit   in   the   last   14   months   that 'Believers  must  learn  from  this  mistake  of  'borrowing',   RE- PENT    of  it    and   NOT  repeat   it' ?       NO.


In   fact,   what   you're   hearing  for   the   last   14    months   is   the EXACT  SAME  'prosperity'   message   except   with   their   craftily-adjusted   phraseology   saying,   AGAIN,   that   '2009  is  the  year God  will  restore  what  has  been  lost!'.       Like  always  and   as of  this   writing   [ Nov  '09 ]    these    8  impostors   are   already    re-applying    their   phoney   'prosperity  coming  to  America'   message to  2010,   since   it   has   clearly,   again,    not   happened   in   2009. These  are  complete   false  prophecies.

The  site   shows  Clement   himself  simply   'changed horses'    right  after    the   Sept   '08   economic   collapse   with   his 'new  word'    for   America   saying   'restoration  is  coming  quickly to  America  in  2009!'.   He  also  suggested   that   his   'No Reces-sion  in  2008!'   prophecy   'failed'   because  of   unbelief   and/or   sin on   the   body   of   Christ's   part   from     'not   believing   the  prophet'.

This   is    as   desperate   and    manipulating   as    it    comes.     Why? Because   it    falsely  accuses   the    brethren   as   being   the   blame for Clement's   own  failings  and   false  prophecies.    In  fact, Clement's   countless   failed  prophecies   talked  about   here   were not   spoken   by   him    'conditionally'.       But,   were   black  and  white unconditional   forecasts   under   his    prime   guise   as   a    'prophet'.

Clement's  recent   implying   that   'believers'   might   be   faulted   for his   failed  prophecies   matches    today's   'money-changers'   who, after   wrongfully  going  into  DEBT,    also   cast    their   self-created financial   burdens   upon   God's   innocent   people.

As   the   rest  of   this   letter   even   more   emphatically   confirms   with scriptures  and   facts,    these  8   false  prophets  and   other   so-called   'prophets'   promoted  at   the  ElijahList   have   absolutely NO  CLUE   about   what   God    is    wanting   to    'say  or  do'    in America.     This  also   pertains   to   the   largest   scope   prophetically on   the   global  scale,    of   which    they  are  100%  blind  to.

Read Full Prophecy  /  Today's False Prophets and the Elijah List >>

Dec  28,  2009
*Excerpt below is from:   2010  Ahead:   Next  End  Time  Events  and  America's  Future /   posted  @  on  Dec 28, 2009   /   ~Rob Conrad  

What is God's specific  'Word'  to  America right  now ?

1)    REPENT.   IT IS TIME NOW   to    turn  away  fully   from   all worldliness  and   ungodliness  in  our  speech,   lives  and   charac- ter.  And  to  embrace the Lord 100%, being a Christlike reflection  of  Him   and   His   nature  of   love,   peace,  kindness towards  all  others.     This  is   what   sets   ourselves   apart   from the   world   and    proves   ourselves   as   being   real   Christians. [John 13:34,35;  Romans 8:14]      

This  is   also   vital   since    'maintaining  our  testimony'   is   a KEY  PROOF   inside   the  coming   7   Year   Tribulation  of    true Christians   who    have   remained  strong  and   upright     before God   even   in   the   face  of   the   most   horrific,   hateful   and turbulent    times   in    history    which   are    coming    just    ahead. [Rev  6:9]

2)   No  more   Bank-Borrowed   DEBTS  or   LOANS   

Although  today's  flashy  TV  ministers and   false prophets  are NOT  saying  this   at   all   in  America,   it   is   most  definitely   the word  of  the  Lord  to  believers  in  America.    God's Word  is clear   about   having  NO DEBTS  and   to  NOT  engage  in BANK-BORROWED   loans  and   DEBT.      It   results  in bondage,  enslavement.     [Proverbs 22:7;  Deut 28,  Romans 13:8].

America's ECONOMIC  implosion  starting  in   Mid-Sept  '08 was  caused  by  Americans,   not  God,    who  placed  themselves into  DEBT,   which  opposes  God's  Word.     Many  who  had 'wooden  idols'   (their  newly  bought  homes by Bank loans) and   have   'toys'   [ie.  cars,  boats,  etc]    had  to   learn   the hard  way   in    the   last   15   months   about   idols   and   DEBT. But,  God   is  greater   than   your   DEBTS   and    errors,   IF   we recognize   our   mistakes,    then   REPENT  of   it.  

More   'tables will be turned over'   in   2010   of   Christian Ministries  and   Church  Pastors  who  continually   push   towards BANK-BORROWED  LOANS-DEBTSand  then  worse,  place the  yoke  and  burden  of  their  mistake  upon  God's  innocent children   to  pay  that  wrongful   DEBT  OFF!       For   believers (or  Christian  leaders)   who   do   have   current    BANK  LOANS and  DEBTS or  house mortgages,  then,  recognize  your mistake right  now,   REPENT of  it,    and  move  on,    NOT making  that error  again.       This  pleases  God.     

Many  today  believe  that   life's  greatest  WEALTH  is   found  in the  bank.     TO THE CONTRARY.     Life's  greatest   WEALTH is   spiritual   and   found   in   the   soul   of   the  person  who has  the  fulness  of  Christ  overflowing  from  within.    This is  a  person  who has  EVERYTHING.      Including  greater wealth   than   all   of    the    weath   found   in   this   world.

Read Full Prophecy  /  2010 Ahead:  Next End Time Events and America's Future >>

~Rob Conrad
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